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The conclave is more than a referendum on Pope Francis

Cardinals stand during the funeral of Pope Francis in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican, Saturday, April 26, 2025. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

America magazine’s editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope. As part of the coverage, the team is producing a new podcast episode every day and releasing it on “Inside the Vatican” and “Jesuitical.”

In today’s episode, the team discusses:

  • The funeral of Pope Francis
  • The cardinal’s decision to start the conclave on May 7
  • The College of Cardinals by the numbers
  • How the conclave is (and isn’t) a referendum on Pope Francis’ pontificate

This episode is hosted by Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video, and features commentary from “Inside the Vatican” co-hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell, “Jesuitical” hosts Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless, editor in chief Sam Sawyer, S.J., editor at large James Martin, S.J., and senior editor J.D. Long García.

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Jesuitical

A podcast for saints and sinners from America Media. Hosted by Ashley McKinless and Zac Davis.

Inside the Vatican

Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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