Pope Francis met individually with 10 world leaders at the G7 summit. He also made history as the first pope to attend and deliver a speech at the gathering, where he urged delegates to prioritize ethics in artificial intelligence for the common good. Earlier that day, he had met with 100 international comedians at the Vatican. In this episode of “Inside the Vatican,” hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell bring you inside both events.

Father James Martin, S.J., joins them to discuss the pope’s meeting with comedians, which he attended, and his hour-long private meeting with the pope, during which he asked about the pope’s reported use of a homophobic slur in closed-door meetings at the Vatican.

NEWS UPDATE: After our recording, news broke that Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganó had been charged with schism by the Vatican and will face trial. You can read Gerry’s report here.

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Links from the show

Pope Francis tells G7: A.I., ‘an exciting and fearsome tool,’ needs urgent political action
Pope Francis has private meeting with Joe Biden at G7 summit
Analysis: Pope Francis makes history at the G7 summit
Pope Francis tells comedians: It’s OK to laugh at God
Pope Francis jokes with Colbert, Fallon, Conan, Whoopi, Chris Rock, Gaffigan and others at the Vatican
What Pope Francis and Stephen Colbert know: Comedy is essential to a life of faith
What’s the right role of the Bishop of Rome and papal primacy? Vatican document seeks path to unity with other Christian churches

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